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The third person this week has pulled out the 'I wrote it when I was little and of course I couldn't revise it before posting because I'm a fucking moron' excuse.

This dimwit tries to excuse all the complaints by her readers about her story Answers by saying she wrote it when she was eight.

Earlier, another 'author' submitted a 'story', spelling mistakes and all, that they wrote in sixth grade.

And then just before that was another author who submitted a story she wrote five years ago, without even glancing over it once.

Where the hell are these people coming from? And what will it take to make them go back there?

Date: 2004-12-30 11:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] razorleaf.livejournal.com
That's not what I'm saying. She said Quakes don't go through water. I say they do. They would not hurt people, but seeing as Earthquakes in pokémon are made from attack 'energy' then the pokémon would feel it.

Date: 2004-12-31 01:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] farla.livejournal.com
But those are normal quakes. These are her special quakes. They're a lot like regular quakes, except they ride on a short bus to school and need a lot of individual attention.

Date: 2004-12-31 01:55 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] wintersheir
*laughs*

When I saw that it'd gone from eight comments to thirteen, I was like "oh good, Dragonfree found us..."

Glad to see that isn't the case...as of yet. xD

Whee.

Date: 2005-01-03 11:38 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Yep, it's ME! The person who has "found" you! Aren't you delighted...

Anyway, the reason I changed Earthquake around was that I came to a wall when I was first about to describe it. Pokémon being able to produce a real earthquake is very hard to explain properly. If they could make real earthquakes occur, we'd have Asia situations every day in the Pokémon world, just because an unfortunate trainer's Ground Pokémon happened to get a critical hit. Therefore, I changed Earthquake to work differently and simply have that name as a metaphor; basically, I write Earthquake to produce waves of energy which travel across the ground and disrupt the balance of energy in a Pokémon. It was made very clear much earlier in the fic that I imagine the Pokémon attack Earthquake to have nothing to do with real earthquakes, and Keleri did not seem to have a problem with it then. You're looking at it out of context.

Now, given that I had already changed Earthquake to work completely differently, I also made it so that these waves of energy did not travel through water. When Keleri commented that they would, I therefore assumed that the waves in question were the energy waves that I had described long before as being what my Earthquake consisted of, and replied accordingly. However, you start poking fun at me for thinking that's how *real* earthquakes work, without actually having read my original description of Earthquake and seen the obvious difference between it and the real thing.

As for the water-repellant spray, I was thinking more along the lines of "repels cold water, but hot water gets it out" when I wrote out the reply, but that was just a random half-asleep suggestion anyway. Stupid explanation or not, my point was just that it's some kind of a spray that repels water and somehow it can be gotten out, but it doesn't matter how. Mentioning the Pokéballs was for comparison because they are some kind of balls that can store life forms inside them and it doesn't matter how because that's just the way it is.

It's game canon that you can use Dive without drowning or dying from cold. I had to explain it, so I quickly thought up something. Lame, sure, but better than just having him magically able to go underwater and come dry out of it. I could have pondered it back and forward and thought of something that really made a lot of sense, but why bother since it was just a one-time mention anyway? That's how I thought it when I wrote the original, and that's what I tend to think when rewriting something that doesn't matter, such as how exactly Mark stayed dry on the way. If it really bothers you, I'll think up something better.

Re: Whee.

Date: 2005-01-04 03:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] farla.livejournal.com
I think the real issue is that you don't have any explanation on how these things work, they fly in the face of reason, and you're changing things unnecessarily.

Let's take earthquake. There's a really simple way it could be an attack without causing massive damage elsewhere - it's localized or even controlled by the pokemon in question. Earthquakes in our world come only from deep within the crust, but in the pokemon world the attack version is strictly surface-based, so it really wouldn't be traveling far even assuming it functioned like a regular earthquake and wasn't under any additional control by the pokemon.

Even if you have it differently, unless you can explain why the tremors don't carry through water, don't be surprised if people find that an issue. (For example - if the earthquake attack only affects about a foot or so into the ground and the pokemon focus the tremors so they don't go deeper, a pokemon could dive underwater below that point and avoid the attack.)

Ditto for the spray thing. You need some explanation for how it works if you have something odd. You shouldn't just be making suggestions unless it's something you deliberately don't want a concrete reason for.

As to Mark staying dry, you know, in the real world, people really do go diving without drowning or freezing. There's existing technology to accomplish this, which, incidentally, was featured on the show several times, so it's pretty certain it exists there too.

(Besides, if he has to get soaked in hot water to get it off...he's not dry anymore, and it seems pretty odd someone would design a spray to keep you dry that required getting soaked to remove it.)

Re: Whee.

Date: 2005-01-05 03:57 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] wintersheir
It was made very clear much earlier in the fic that I imagine the Pokémon attack Earthquake to have nothing to do with real earthquakes, and Keleri did not seem to have a problem with it then.

I didn't comment on it before because I was just reading through your 'fic without thinking about it. My less-than-excited first review to your story is a testament to my disinclination to make in-depth commentary despite some of the nonsensical things I'd read.

You said it produced a tremor that hurt pokemon, not people, and hurt electric-types because it created an imbalance between the positive and negative charges in their bodies. You never stated that they would not travel through water in this particular initial description, which doesn't make sense either. The fact that it hurts pokemon and not people is another one of those "umm...magic"-type scenarios, and electric-types are basically walking imbalanced charges to begin with.

Lame, sure, but better than just having him magically able to go underwater and come dry out of it.

And what is so wrong with having him get wet? If he's going so deep that the water gets cold enough to be hypothermia-inducing, then I think we might have some concerns involving water pressure.

Date: 2004-12-31 02:50 pm (UTC)

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