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More on missed opportunities, AKA why must the pokemon category disappoint me? :(
So someone's incompetently bitching at me over on the forum, but nothing really impressive.
And again with the interesting ideas watch.
Someone has one of those fics where the cool/special character shows up, and they meet an ordinary person and interact. We need a name for the genre.
In this case, it's Mewtwo, and the whole story is just missed opportunity after missed opportunity.
It starts off with a trainer finding a somewhat out of it Mewtwo. He pulls out his pokedex.
Now, in canon, pokedexes only have data on known pokemon, which we've known ever since the movie when Ash tried to get a read on Mew. The pokedex does recognize Mewtwo, though, which means someone's released the information about him.
Cool!
Now, the only person who initially knows about Mewtwo is Giovanni, and possibly some of his scientists. Given Pokemon's rather mutable canon, though, it'd be perfectly possible to assume that other officials have found out about Mewtwo. So what would they release? Well, maybe they'd just tell the truth, but there's a great chance here to subvert our standard expectations that the pokedex is some sort of automatic information-maker that's always totally right, and set up some delicious plotty drama!
Oh, you agree, author? You're going to have it be wrong? Yay! There's all kinds of awesome ways this could work out, depending on who leaked the information, and what their goals were. If Giovanni's behind it, I figure he'd want it to be something that'd lead to him getting Mewtwo back - perhaps a short blurb along the lines of "DANGER: DO NOT ENGAGE, REPORT ANY SIGHTINGS." Or maybe he'd want trainers to try to take Mewtwo out - either stealing the resulting caught Mewtwo, or on the assumption Mewtwo will annihilate them, keeping its existence to the world at large secret while alerting whatever monitoring system Team Rocket has. Or maybe the pokedex itself is wired to automatically report and the displayed message would be something along the lines of "MEWTWO: This powerful pokemon that's a boon to any team is friendly and easygoing. The best way to convince it to join your team is to tell it humans are superior and then poke it a few times. If it does not respond immediately, start discussing how inferior clones are."
Then there's just trying to sabotage any of Mewtwo's interactions with humans - say, inform any trainers that Mewtwo are highly intelligent manipulative liars, prone to mood swings that end in brutal painful death, evil sociopaths, etc. Something that will cast what we can assume Mewtwo's initial observable characteristics in the most negative light possible. Ie, if he starts giving a sob story about Giovanni being Team Rocket's boss, well, he's a highly intelligent liar trying to manipulate you into thwarting a good upstanding gym leader, either because he's just evil and hates good people or possibly because Good Citizen Giovanni is trying to stop him from murdering anyone else. Bonus points if Giovanni carries out a good enough disinformation campaign that Mewtwo starts assuming all the gym leaders and Elite Four are part of Giovanni's organization, because not only will he seem even less plausible, but now the odds are that any trainer he does convince will hit one of the innocent good gym leaders, thus confirming Mewtwo was just on a campaign to take out innocent good gym leaders, like Giovanni who's obviously extra good if Mewtwo is focusing so much effort on him.
If a shadowy cabal is in charge, our options are even more varied. What information they give will also give us clues about how good/evil they are and what their overall motives are. So whatever the information is, it'll set up all kinds of speculation and interest, as we try to figure out what their motives are from the empty shape formed around all the stuff they're not saying and that conflicts with what we know.
...oh, nevermind, it's just the pokedex data from the games.
You know, the data from a canon where Mewtwo is a completely different character and major events never happened? The data that, while totally inaccurate for movie!Mewtwo, is totally inaccurate in a way that is immediately disprovable, and, besides being a bit irritating to Mewtwo, doesn't seem to communicate anything to a trainer beyond just that he's a strong pokemon who's a good fighter? The data which it makes no sense for anyone to give out?
Yeah, that data.
Okay, that's just one letdown.
Then Mewtwo decides to tell his life story. It's adjusted mildly as a result of author fangirling (Giovanni brainwashed him, he didn't mean to kill any of the scientists) but there's no in-story suggestion he's telling anything but the truth. He goes into far more detail than he needs in the process, including many things it is not a good idea to tell a stranger.
So there's no suggestion Mewtwo isn't telling the whole truth to this trainer, setting up conflict as the trainer tries to figure out how much of what this strange pokemon says is true, or if any of it even is, and what bits might be missing.
At the same time, all those important bits that should cause conflict (say, killing people) are instantly accepted by the trainer as totally okay. No conflict there.
And Mewtwo accepts the whole totally okay thing from the trainer, instead of having the slightest degree of suspicious. Because, you know, his past interactions with humans have not involved being lied to or manipulated by them at all!
There is a really good story here. It's just not the one they're writing.
EDIT: Just got a review reply.
For the Pokedex stuff, it was never identified properly in its appearances, therefore, no true entry exists in the anime-verse. Thus, I put together the Pokedex entries of the games that were out at the time of the second Mewtwo movie's release, Gold, Silver, and Crystal.
So the idea of inventing something never even occurred to them, let alone the meaning behind a pokedex entry. In fact, despite it being brought up in that very review, they don't realize THERE IS NO POKEDEX ENTRY ON MEWTWO AT ALL IN THE ANIME VERSE. Not "they didn't mention it", it DOES NOT EXIST.
They go on to say that the story is meant to be a one-shot, because apparently one character telling the other his background is considered enough to qualify for a story these days.
And again with the interesting ideas watch.
Someone has one of those fics where the cool/special character shows up, and they meet an ordinary person and interact. We need a name for the genre.
In this case, it's Mewtwo, and the whole story is just missed opportunity after missed opportunity.
It starts off with a trainer finding a somewhat out of it Mewtwo. He pulls out his pokedex.
Now, in canon, pokedexes only have data on known pokemon, which we've known ever since the movie when Ash tried to get a read on Mew. The pokedex does recognize Mewtwo, though, which means someone's released the information about him.
Cool!
Now, the only person who initially knows about Mewtwo is Giovanni, and possibly some of his scientists. Given Pokemon's rather mutable canon, though, it'd be perfectly possible to assume that other officials have found out about Mewtwo. So what would they release? Well, maybe they'd just tell the truth, but there's a great chance here to subvert our standard expectations that the pokedex is some sort of automatic information-maker that's always totally right, and set up some delicious plotty drama!
Oh, you agree, author? You're going to have it be wrong? Yay! There's all kinds of awesome ways this could work out, depending on who leaked the information, and what their goals were. If Giovanni's behind it, I figure he'd want it to be something that'd lead to him getting Mewtwo back - perhaps a short blurb along the lines of "DANGER: DO NOT ENGAGE, REPORT ANY SIGHTINGS." Or maybe he'd want trainers to try to take Mewtwo out - either stealing the resulting caught Mewtwo, or on the assumption Mewtwo will annihilate them, keeping its existence to the world at large secret while alerting whatever monitoring system Team Rocket has. Or maybe the pokedex itself is wired to automatically report and the displayed message would be something along the lines of "MEWTWO: This powerful pokemon that's a boon to any team is friendly and easygoing. The best way to convince it to join your team is to tell it humans are superior and then poke it a few times. If it does not respond immediately, start discussing how inferior clones are."
Then there's just trying to sabotage any of Mewtwo's interactions with humans - say, inform any trainers that Mewtwo are highly intelligent manipulative liars, prone to mood swings that end in brutal painful death, evil sociopaths, etc. Something that will cast what we can assume Mewtwo's initial observable characteristics in the most negative light possible. Ie, if he starts giving a sob story about Giovanni being Team Rocket's boss, well, he's a highly intelligent liar trying to manipulate you into thwarting a good upstanding gym leader, either because he's just evil and hates good people or possibly because Good Citizen Giovanni is trying to stop him from murdering anyone else. Bonus points if Giovanni carries out a good enough disinformation campaign that Mewtwo starts assuming all the gym leaders and Elite Four are part of Giovanni's organization, because not only will he seem even less plausible, but now the odds are that any trainer he does convince will hit one of the innocent good gym leaders, thus confirming Mewtwo was just on a campaign to take out innocent good gym leaders, like Giovanni who's obviously extra good if Mewtwo is focusing so much effort on him.
If a shadowy cabal is in charge, our options are even more varied. What information they give will also give us clues about how good/evil they are and what their overall motives are. So whatever the information is, it'll set up all kinds of speculation and interest, as we try to figure out what their motives are from the empty shape formed around all the stuff they're not saying and that conflicts with what we know.
...oh, nevermind, it's just the pokedex data from the games.
You know, the data from a canon where Mewtwo is a completely different character and major events never happened? The data that, while totally inaccurate for movie!Mewtwo, is totally inaccurate in a way that is immediately disprovable, and, besides being a bit irritating to Mewtwo, doesn't seem to communicate anything to a trainer beyond just that he's a strong pokemon who's a good fighter? The data which it makes no sense for anyone to give out?
Yeah, that data.
Okay, that's just one letdown.
Then Mewtwo decides to tell his life story. It's adjusted mildly as a result of author fangirling (Giovanni brainwashed him, he didn't mean to kill any of the scientists) but there's no in-story suggestion he's telling anything but the truth. He goes into far more detail than he needs in the process, including many things it is not a good idea to tell a stranger.
So there's no suggestion Mewtwo isn't telling the whole truth to this trainer, setting up conflict as the trainer tries to figure out how much of what this strange pokemon says is true, or if any of it even is, and what bits might be missing.
At the same time, all those important bits that should cause conflict (say, killing people) are instantly accepted by the trainer as totally okay. No conflict there.
And Mewtwo accepts the whole totally okay thing from the trainer, instead of having the slightest degree of suspicious. Because, you know, his past interactions with humans have not involved being lied to or manipulated by them at all!
There is a really good story here. It's just not the one they're writing.
EDIT: Just got a review reply.
For the Pokedex stuff, it was never identified properly in its appearances, therefore, no true entry exists in the anime-verse. Thus, I put together the Pokedex entries of the games that were out at the time of the second Mewtwo movie's release, Gold, Silver, and Crystal.
So the idea of inventing something never even occurred to them, let alone the meaning behind a pokedex entry. In fact, despite it being brought up in that very review, they don't realize THERE IS NO POKEDEX ENTRY ON MEWTWO AT ALL IN THE ANIME VERSE. Not "they didn't mention it", it DOES NOT EXIST.
They go on to say that the story is meant to be a one-shot, because apparently one character telling the other his background is considered enough to qualify for a story these days.