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Name: Thelastgreatrocker17
Profile: http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1916211/
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Subject: Lol

Oh my frickin' lord. It really is hard to believe that you have the time to
post my pm and a response criticising how wrong I am on livejournal but
somehow can't find the time for an actual response to my pm sent straight to
me and actually meant for me to read and respond like a civilised person.

Seriously, how do you not consider that trolling?

P.s. A troll is essentially a nickname given to an anti-social or undesirable
person on the internet. I'd say that the way you're dealing with my
occasionally pm's shows that you fight that description perfectly. Which is
why (forgive me for being redundant) i'm calling you a troll. Could you please
just simply reply to me without posting this pm on livejournal.

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Date: 2011-09-09 12:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] negrek.livejournal.com
Well that's one of the worst definitions of "troll" that I've ever seen.

Date: 2011-09-09 12:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] farla.livejournal.com
He's definitely a weird one. He's insulting in the first PM, then after I reply he yells at me for not accepting his magnanimous friendship gesture of allowing me to beta read all his stories and says not to talk to him ever again. And now this.

Date: 2011-09-09 12:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] negrek.livejournal.com
Sounds like a pathological need to be in the right and have the last word to me. "She posted about me in her Livejournal?? This cannot go unpunished!"

Date: 2011-09-09 01:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] psychmoonshadow.livejournal.com
It's always great when someone feels the need to define something for you without actually knowing the definition as everyone else knows it. o.O

~Psychic

Date: 2011-09-09 01:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nrrrdy-grrrl.livejournal.com
I love you for posting this!

Date: 2011-09-09 01:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] actonthat.livejournal.com
I do not think that word means what you think it means.

Date: 2011-09-10 07:56 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
This guy seems to betting angry because he specifically asked Farla not to post his PRIVATE message on Livejournal and she did anyway. That just seems wrong and somewhat anti-social. Which is essentially what hee probably meant when he said what he meant.

Realistically speaking, since this is Farla's livejournal account, you're probably not gonna see any of his supporters defending him and you're going to see Farla's supporters saying why she's right. I consider myself neutral in comment battles and forum fights but at this point it seems as though someone should defend this guy.

Out of curiosity though, what is you're definition of a troll? I'm curious because you seem to be merely saying he's wrong without actually giving a reason as to why.

Date: 2011-09-10 08:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] farla.livejournal.com
You seem to be confused about the timeline. The only one he asked not to post was this last one, not the other two he's mad about. And the very first line of my FFN profile is WARNING: PMs you send may be reposted, so it's not as if I didn't try to warn him.

I do normally respect people directly asking me not to post their PMs, but normally people ask for reasons other than a power trip to prove they get to boss me around. As the title of this post says, I never wanted to talk to him. He's been a rude asshole trying to give me orders this whole time.

Date: 2011-09-11 12:20 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Maybe I did rush in too fast without knowing the actual story behind this post. So I guess i'll reply based on the information you gave me.

It's possible that he didn't read your profile before sending you his messages and therefore had no idea that his messages were ending up on livejournal for the public to see. This person obviously has an idea in his head that a private message should only be shared between two people and perhaps he feels angry that you, in his mind, ignored him and violated his trust. From that perspective you can definitely see why he would be angry at you.

Date: 2011-09-11 12:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] farla.livejournal.com
Actually, you apparently rushed in without even reading the damn post.

And no, he obviously does not. His complaint is not that it's being posted here, it's that it's being posted here instead of replying to him, because he thinks that the fact he wrote obnoxious, insulting PMs means I am obligated to reply politely begging him to let me be his friend. He's an asshole, that's why I posted his PMs in the first place.

Date: 2011-09-11 01:28 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Being his friend and accepting his friendship are two different things. Truth be told part of the reason i'm pushing his defense is to, so to speak, put you under a little heat and see how you react. We all react differently when we're angry, and you can take of that as you will. I understand that he wants you to reply to him and you don't want to, but I also understand that if you simply ignore him than he probably will stop pm-ing you in the first place. To put it another way, displaying your dog's crap in public instead of dealing with it by yourself just leaves you with a house full of crap and a bunch of visitors quietly talking about you behind your back.

Date: 2011-09-11 01:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] farla.livejournal.com
He's not my dog. If he doesn't want to look bad, then he should stop behaving badly.

Date: 2011-09-11 01:49 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
He's behaving badly by attempting to talk to you? It seems to me that you ignore his and probably other people's messages because you're scared. If you want my opinion (Which I doubt you will accept) you seem to be a scared little girl/boy who doesn't want to speak with anybody who speaks negatively of you. As a result you seek avoidance methods to avoid contact with such people, such as replying to them on an unrelated site and allowing you're friends to compliment you on your mature method of dealing with them. You also seem to focus simply on my mistakes and what you don't agree with than what I got right and what you might agree with.

It does seem hypocritical that you'll have a conversation with me, who admittedly is acting a little bit like an asshole, and you won't have a conversation with him.

Date: 2011-09-11 01:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] farla.livejournal.com
Considering you've been sounding like the same person, not really.

Date: 2011-09-11 02:02 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
You do realize that with that comment you're kind of agreeing with me right?

Date: 2011-09-11 02:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] farla.livejournal.com
No, but since you've been wrong about everything else, it makes sense you'd see it that way.

Date: 2011-09-11 02:13 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Obviously nothing's gonna come out of this. You and this guy are both acting like stubborn children with your belief that the other is wrong and that you are completely correct with no hope of fault. This has become more of a chore for me watching a sad person like you replying to all my comments mere minutes after I send them and completely ignoring everything I say.

Now if you excuse, i'll be leaving this strange affair and moving on with my life.

Date: 2014-08-07 11:22 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Reminder for future anonymous posters: If you say you are going to be neutral, be freaking neutral. That means don't go and personally insult farla, that will get you nowhere.

Date: 2014-08-07 11:20 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
She's not a scared little girl, she's a grown adult that laughs in the face of opposition and post these kinds of things to say to her (probably adult) friends and associates something along the lines of "Hey, guys, look at this! Can you believe that people actually say these kinds of things?"

She's not replying to them possibly because she doesn't care whether they think her rude or not.

Date: 2011-09-10 08:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] negrek.livejournal.com
Out of curiosity though, what is you're definition of a troll? I'm curious because you seem to be merely saying he's wrong without actually giving a reason as to why.

Urban Dictionary's definitions for "troll" 1-3 are a good overview. "An anti-social or undesirable person on the internet" is far too broad a definition (and a misuse of "anti-social", but whatever). There are plenty of misanthropic or otherwise undesirable people on the internet who are not trolls; the term has a connotation of intentionally stirring up trouble and being provocative just to get a reaction.

Date: 2011-09-11 12:10 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Wouldn't that be considered ant-social or undesirable? Though I will say that i'm not disagreeing with you, but when I asked for your opinion as to what a troll is, I wanted your opinion and not what the right answer is off of urban dictionary.

As my math teacher used to say "I'm giving you the answers in the back of this book, but if you can't figure out the problem when the answers aren't avialable to you. Then you're screwed." Wise words indeed.

On the subject of misanthropy, wouldn't avoiding private messages by putting them up on this site for other people to read and for you not to answer be considered misanthrobic? You know, in the sense that you're avoiding the person and possibly trying to get some kind of reaction from people? i only added that last part cause the reaction can go both ways, with either positive or negative reactions.

I don't wish to insult anyone, and like I said before, I wish to remain as neutral as possible during conflicts. Even though I wouldn't consider this a conflict at all, merely as something that has caught my interest.

Date: 2011-09-11 12:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] farla.livejournal.com
Also, all dogs are poodles.

Date: 2011-09-11 05:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] negrek.livejournal.com
I wanted your opinion and not what the right answer is off of urban dictionary.

?

My opinion is that Urban Dictionary's definition is correct. That's why I posted it in reply to your question, "what's your definition of troll?"

Wouldn't that be considered ant-social or undesirable?

Yes, trolls are considered undesirable (usually), but not anti-social (which is a serious personality disorder). But in any case, as Farla was getting at with the "all dogs are poodles" comment, just because someone is misanthropic doesn't make them a troll.

I don't think that posting private messages in your personal journal is trolling, no. I also don't think that your characterization of Farla's motives in posting the private messages here is correct, either, so no, not especially misanthropic for that matter. Not all that polite, but the messages themselves weren't polite, either.

Date: 2011-09-12 12:38 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
all he did was try to be your friend, why not just get it over with?

Date: 2011-09-12 03:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] farla.livejournal.com
My money's on him whining about this to his current gang.

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